Why Students Should NOT Take Up Diploma Before Degree In Engineering

Online study platform Stupidsid used to dub it as the most overrated course on planet Earth. Very well, the then teenage founders knew what they were dealing with when they included Bachelor of Engineering (BE) into their database. But, little do incoming students know what the technical courses have in store for them once they step into its confusing and gigantic world of information – numbers and alphabets and symbols mostly. And I am talking chiefly about those students, passed out of the essential yet insufficient Secondary School Certificate (SSC), at the entrance of matriculation edifice. Should I take up the three or four-year course Diploma or shall I take the HSC-CET route? Is Diploma good after 10th?

That is also exactly when your (unheard of) relatives clog your home network with phone calls, text messages, and what-not giving worthless advice about what you should do and which stream you should join and why VJTI is still at number one. Your parents talk more to those whose children now walk behind the top CEOs or are the top CEOs of some native amalgamation under the disguise of an international one. Your friends won’t help much.

Your partner is doing fashion designing or is studying town planning or is perhaps busy doing what most untalented folks do – digital marketing. You want to take up Diploma because it sounds cool & will give you some respite from appearing for the tough and mandatory Common Entrance Test (CET).

Whatever you are inclined to do, you should give a peek through the following points that I have personally experienced over my engineering days. After completing my four-year Diploma course (which included a year of in-plant internship), I enter second-year of the Degree course and studied for three more years to become a graduate. Two years later, I began pursuing my Master of Arts in English Literature.

Degree Vs. Diploma – Which is Better?

  • You Will Suck at Math: This is the biggest drawback of doing diploma before degree in engineering. Because whatever stream you choose, the former has the subject Mathematics only in the first three semesters. And the pathetic syllabus by the Maharashtra technical board will have you learning basic Matrices. By the time you complete Diploma, you will forget most of it chiefly due to a lack of practise and implementation. Next, since you will directly enter the second year of Engineering Degree, a huge part of essential Mathematics (first two semesters) will elude you and there is where they teach you why Mathematics is so, so, so important for Engineering. Eventually, the chances of you flunking in the third semester Mathematics is as high as your chances of getting through the college that you want are low. Tutors may help you, but remember, coaching classes are a multi-crore business in India.
  • Desolation or Paranoia: You will find out how badly you suck at Mathematics in less than five days of your degree. And there’s this lack of friends group that you cannot even throw the baggage on. Your classmates have all braved the CET and are, in most cases, younger to you; they have already formed groups and all the pretty girls are taken, the topper has been throned and is usually not good-looking, teachers have capped their white-lists and created nicknames for you. You will never be called by your first name until the time you almost forget how a Bipolar Junction Transistor (BJT) works. Diploma students are called D2D students, direct second year admissions, failures, scumbags and thankfully, sometimes “scholars.” Too bad, they won’t call you back-benchers because unlike during the school times, here the only vacant benches are the front ones. Someone might want to edit scientist Dr. A P J Abdul Kalam’s quote!
    To cut the long story short, if none of your Diploma classmates have enrolled with you in your college and if you are an introvert, then you will indefinitely sink into ennui-ridden desolation. Paranoia will take time, but history shows that soon you will find solace in other Diploma students from different college and/or streams.
  • Standard is Standard Now: Diploma will give you opportunities and plenty of accolades for participating in the ubiquitous technical paper presentation competitions where you take a topic (which is often – “Recent Trends In Engineering”) and plagiarize every other online journal/Wikipedia article/magazine related to that topic without citing. The rookie jury will be astonished to see you present a Prezi slideshow because they are used to the more popular MS PowerPoint. Technobabble will win you that cash-prize. In degree, the story is totally different. You think of changing the monotony by participating in a presentation in the upcoming college-level technical fest. They have challenging competitors, professional jury, brainstorming sessions, and concept-debriefing. You will fail terribly if you follow your Diploma protocol and that will further attack your self-confidence.
    You should also think over this: both Diploma and Degree are four year courses (if you consider the in-plant training), but you only move forward a single year (direct second year admission) in Degree after you complete Diploma. That answers the question why Diploma has such a low value in career shelves and professional CVs.
  • Parents Will Never Understand the Paradigm Shift: Okay, so you cracked that Diploma examination with flying colors and were consistent in your efforts. You get the provisional Diploma certificate. Fine. But, since you suck at Mathematics, and because you will invariably find out that the remaining subjects are partially related to it, you will have the luck of flunking in at least one subject. Because what you studied during Diploma will be located on the farthest part of your brain, and Mathematics, along with alphabets now has ambiguous sentences & Greek letters guarding it. Techmax Publications won’t be sufficient also because they are crammed with errors. Depending on Easy Solutions of the recent fad KT280 may help, but will you really understand and grasp the Engineering concepts? When the time comes for you to perform during the Graduate Aptitude Test in Engineering (GATE) that you may later take.
    And that failure won’t be like how they seem to be in that famous inspiring quote about light bulb by scientist Thomas Edison. It will bring you embarrassment. Teachers of your former polytechnic will understand and react totally opposite to how your parents will. That’ll be a relief, and if your Diploma mates are allowed to keep term (ATKT) in same subject(s), that will be a support against your parents, too. Pressure will falter and you will stop thinking about the future. This moment will be worthy, and I am pretty sure, the next time you sit to study with a credible reference book, it will be with vengeance. Only, here the adversary is no one.

So, it is up to you and only you to decide what it will be and how it will be. Engineering is just too overwhelming when it comes to all the knowledge and learning, but make sure the path you choose is trustworthy and unmasked.

DO NOT listen to people who use sentences like “Diploma will give you experience”, “Diploma is better than the pain of CET”, and “Diploma is in parallel with Engineering.” This is all blabber because these people are actually referring to how the mainstream terms it. Of course, self-thought can outmatch these above listed discrepancies and there are people who have found actual success with the Diploma route, like my father who is a Civil Engineer. He took the Diploma route in early 1970s and is a proud construction specialist today.

On the other hand, I have recently observed that there is not much difference between Diploma students and graduates when it comes to their ability to get jobs in the real world. A friend and former colleague, earns a handsome package as an engineer in Schlumberger after doing ITI & Diploma courses. He still tells me that he has plans to complete his Engineering from Mumbai University, but without a graduation, he is still an asset to his company.

With respect to how the word sounds bold, Diploma is good enough for students who are not planning to pursue graduation in future. It is also a great path for students who are financially less strong and would want to wrap their education with a good technical course. For example, a close friend of mine earns a decent package at Godrej & Boyce Mfg. Ltd. after only pursuing Diploma in Industrial Electronics. He has no plans to pursue Degree in Engineering and he’s happy and already climbing up in the world.

Choosing one over another is just a matter of choice, and there is no objective answer as to which one is better, but all I want to emphasize on today is that Diploma does come with its own set of disadvantages. Which, to conclude, are more devastating than that of going to junior college. TN.

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UPDATE: Copyedited; added and removed sentences and links. (13 January 2019)

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Mitesh Shah
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So true… Maths really sucks !!!

Very Well written … High-Five!

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Thanks!
Sab apne baare mein hi likha hai! 🙂

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sanjay pamanji
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sanjay pamanji

not agree. diploma is better than doing 11 12th. you get two degree in 6 years after ssc. those who do diploma and degree both are more sound engineers than person doing degree after 12th. dont worry about maths. it is easy. very good private diploma engineering colleges are available. dont do engineering in indian government colleges. no one completes syllabus in government colleges, faculty and students are lazy in govt.

Tejas Nair
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Wait before you tag Diploma as a Degree. Both are totally different concepts. Of course, if you successfully complete degree after diploma (which is a tedious task, by the way), companies may give your priority. This post focuses on how at least 30% of Diploma students fail to manage the hailstorm, called Degree. Maths can be easy or difficult; but if you are a diploma student, it becomes tougher.

ashiq.m.s
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ashiq.m.s

hi,
i am interested in mechanical and automobile. there is no one in my family to help me to choose a course for the better future. i have finished my 12th PCMC. can you please suggest me or help me to choose a better course???

Tejas Nair
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Hello Ashiq!

It partly depends on your interests. I had a thing for Electronics, so I took Electronics & Telecommunication. However, you will also need to look at the subjects which you will be studying in the span of 4 years. It is very important and should be thoroughly considered. If you are interested in Mechanical/Automobile, then you should go ahead with it. You can reach me anytime at tejas.you@gmail.com.

Chaitrali Palasdeokar
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Chaitrali Palasdeokar

But i think HSC is more preferable..as we get to know the basics in maths in 11th 12th…

Tejas Nair
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Agreed.

kedar Dhawaskar
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kedar Dhawaskar

I m kedar Dhavaskar frm goa I hv finished ssc so should I go fr diploma or 11&12 and tan degree

Tejas Nair
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If you are good in Mathematics and really understand that Engineering is for you, then I would suggest Diploma. Otherwise 11-12 route will be better because it opens many roads.

mansi jatin gajre
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mansi jatin gajre

sir, I am passed out 10th standard from icse board any benefit for going in diploma? or should I go for 11th & 12 th std? pls give me reply as early as possible.

Tejas Nair
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I would always suggest going the 11/12th route. All the best!

Nitish kumar
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Nitish kumar

I just passed my 10th class with 90% marks and i am not that good in maths so what should i do 11 and 12 science or diploma

Tejas Nair
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Since you are currently not good at Maths, I’d suggest you take the HSC route. This will not only prepare you more for degree but will also leave you with better options that you would if you take the diploma route. All the best!

vaishali kumbhar
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vaishali kumbhar

i am passed ssc exam.I have got 93.60 in ssc exam.So 12 and degree or diploma then degree is better for me in govt. college in computer.

Tejas Nair
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I would always suggest the HSC route. Because it opens up too many options for you in future. All the best!

vignesh
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vignesh

I have passed diploma in extc can I get direct second admission to textile technology for degree

Tejas Nair
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I’m not sure. Better go to a college and enquire. All the best!

hasmukh chauhan
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hasmukh chauhan

my son get 68% in ssc gujrat bord. what should i do go to diploma or 11 12. my son want to become BE MECENICAL. Should he take mecenical corse in diploma or go for 11, 12.

Tejas Nair
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Considering that the percentage is low, you should opt for 11-12. If gathering an admission is difficult, only then opt for diploma in Mechanical. All the best!

Mayank Gindodiya
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Mayank Gindodiya

Hi sir,
I am in 11th now. Can i join 2nd year of diploma after 11th??

Tejas Nair
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You can do it, Mayank, but you will be joining as an SSC passout and NOT 11th passout. One other option you can try is to complete your HSC and then go for Diploma, but you will be wasting one more year… Good luck!

Vikrant Khemkar
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Vikrant Khemkar

sir,i failed in 12th then took 1st year diploma course in automobile engg. and now im failed in my 1st year subjects.Maths-2, Mechanics. and d-2.Now,im preparing for 12 th again.im confused.cuz i also want to do engg but i dont want those filthy grade msbte subjects i failed in..plz ..help me ..suggest me sir whether to continue diploma or do 12th n then do bsc or any other course like tourism,marine field,etc..or clear 1st year sub n finish diploma??

Tejas Nair
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Hi Vikrant, if you feel the subjects (Maths, Mechanics, etc.) are not for you, then I would suggest you to resume and complete your HSC. After that you can start afresh – a BSC course with vocational majors like tourism or marine field. First you have to understand that Engineering may not be for you. Good luck!

Vikrant
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Vikrant

thanks a lot for your suggestions n i highly appreciate your support sir..i thought a lot abt tis n hv decided to complete my hsc this july n then go for bsc ..but with marks of like 65%will i get good college for tourism n travel management in mumbai with low fees?

Tejas Nair
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Hi Vikrant, that’s good. I wish you all the best. I’m sorry, but I do not personally know what the criteria are for such courses. But, I’m sure 65% is not a very low grade. Do some online/offline research when you get free time. Good luck!

s.mohamed tajudeen
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Sir i study in diploma in computer engg iam not studying in 11th and12th it will not completed any problem for my life.please sir say the answer.

Tejas Nair
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No problem at all. You should not worry about such things now. Please continue your diploma and then preferably pursue graduation in the same or similar field. All the best!

Arpan kumar dey
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Arpan kumar dey

DoB : 21/02/1996
X(2012) : 60%
XII(2014) : 50% (commerce)
Diploma(2017) : 63.7%(Automobile engineering) from an AICTE approved institution.
Now(nov’17) persuing b.tech(lateral entry) from Techno india banipur(under Techno India Group) which is also approved by AICTE & WBUT affiliated.
Now my question is that,am i going to face any problem in govt. job interviews after b.tech & GATE for not having 60% & science in HSE?

Tejas Nair
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You may or may not. Most PSUs only just care about your GATE and final year BTech score. But it would be good to check the criteria before opting. Either way, there’s no point in crying over spilled milk about your HSC scores. Just do better on your forthcoming exams. Good luck!

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Borom Jamatia
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Borom Jamatia

Hey…i failed in 12 in 2019..studing in science. I’m opting for mechanical or aeronautical…but I’m confused whether to take Diploma through 10 results of repeat 12 again??Please hepl me..Still in doubt which will be the better way??

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